Quien,

Obama & Ayers is a non-story. So what if Obama happens to know the guy - they are not, nor have they ever been good buds. This did serve on the board of a charitable foundation together, but so what!!! They even live in the same part of town. So what!!!

There are morons in the media who keep trying to spin a story out of this and people out there who simply aren't very bright and are gullible enough to eat this crap up.  Why don't you just criticize the entire faculty of the University of Illinois, where Ayers is a faculty member.

What Ayers was involved with in the 60s was disgusting. Obama was not involved in any of this. Even Ayers has publicly stated that to equate Obama's political views with his is ludicrous. You are trying to establish guilt by association, the same way Joe McCarthy tried to do in the 50s. He was exposed as scum and has ended up as one of the most reviled political figures in American history. If you admire McCarthy's style, give it a shot. Most readers of P* will get your number, if they haven't already.

George Bush has the lowest public approval rating of any modern day president and this is because of his general incompetence, his policies and his actions.  McCain, who I happen to like and admire as a person, has been a strong supporter of many, but not all of Bush's policies and decisions.

McCain is trying to distance himself from the Bush debacle, but I don't think he'll have much success.

 

McCain doesn't have to distance himself.  Every time that Obama distances himself from Ayres, he does the same for McCane with Bush.

 You can't have it both ways.

No, Quien.

If we try to do make the logical connection (and "good buds" might indeed be a very apt description, considering their couples dinners together) - if we try to make the connection, it means we are racists.

MWL

Sensei, Obama did go to his home for a fund raiser (a fund raiser for Obama) when he was beginning his political career.  So it's a bit more than "they just live in the same neighborhood".

It's a bit more than "they just live in the same neighborhood." Ayers gave a dinner at his home to raise funds for Obama. So what? Obama was eight years old when Ayers did the dumb things he did. That was about 40 years ago. I would guess that Ayers, now a faculty member at UI, has evolved over the years into someething most people would recognize as reasonably respectable. You know, like all liberals, he's "flip flopped." There's nothing wrong with criticizing Obama's policies -- and you don't have to be a racist to do it -- but trying to make something out of nothing involves the kind of gossip that belongs on a grade-school playground.

Kind of like McCain and Bush being connected, eh?  Just grade school playground BS, right?

"So what? Obama was eight years old when Ayers did the dumb things he did. That was about 40 years ago."

The issue at hand is not what Obama did when he was 8 years old, it's what he did when he was 38 years old.

Mark 

I did many dumb things 40 years ago. Some I'm regretful of, most I've forgotten. Never bombed anyone or anything. I believe that goes beyond what one of us considers simply "dumb".

Of course, the guy apologized, right?

Wrong. On 9/11, as published in the NY Times, he regretted he didn't do more. 9/11 2001, not 40 years ago.

Radicals seem to be attracted to Obama. I'm wondering what their big attraction is. 

To my knowledge Bill Ayres has never been convicted or gone to prison for any act of domestic terrorism.

Am I correct in this?  If so, how come he never went to prison?

~Mr. Purrington 

 

 

Mr. Purrington:

To my knowledge Bill Ayres has never been convicted or gone to prison for any act of domestic terrorism.

Am I correct in this?  If so, how come he never went to prison?

~Mr. Purrington

Good lawyer, poor prosecutor, radical judge. And no double jeopardy.

How can anyone deny that the phrase "McCain-Bush" or "Bush-McCain" is not guilt by association? That has been used over and over again in the Obama campaign and has been for months. I consider it the first volley in a negative political campaign that we were all hoping would not happpen. If I were looking for a text-book example of of guilt by association, "McCain-Bush" would be it along with the abbreviated  "McBush" that Howard Dean used a couple of weeks ago on Meet The Press.

I don't think you can argue "McCain-Bush" is not guilt by association because McCain has strongly supported Bush policies, if anything, it is Bush that has come around to supporting McCain's positions, and it has been that way since the firing of Rumsfeld.

-dale