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To the defensors of nuclear energy
robertts12 05-16-2008, 3:17 PM | Post #2518610 |  19 Replies
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I don't like nuclear energy specially for health reasons. In other post I warned that there are alternative energies that can be used quickly than nuclear energy. But as people doesn't want to stop with oil and energy adiction, nuclear energy can be considered. This link shows a revolutionary inovation in nuclear energy.http://nextbigfuture.com/2008/03/direct-conversion-of-radiation-into.html

 

 

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Re: To the defensors of nuclear energy
mshimko 05-16-2008, 4:16 PM | Post #2518625
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I LIKE nuclear enegy, specifically for health reasons, and it's technology has ALREADY been developed!

More nukes, now.

//mjs

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Re: To the defensors of nuclear energy
Governor 05-16-2008, 4:26 PM | Post #2518629
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Yes, we have never had a single fatality from nuclear power but lose hundreds each year in the coal mines not to mention the hundreds of thousands who suffer from black lung, asthma, or other coal related illnesses. 

 

Re: To the defensors of nuclear energy
def 05-16-2008, 5:01 PM | Post #2518640
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The link was way beyond my ability to understand.

I read Popular Science - not Scientific American  [;-)}

I was just re-reading cold fusion (not the Web software) info the other day
Hopin' beyond hope

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Re: To the defensors of nuclear energy
sensei 05-16-2008, 5:09 PM | Post #2518643
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Governor:

Yes, we have never had a single fatality from nuclear power but lose hundreds each year in the coal mines not to mention the hundreds of thousands who suffer from black lung, asthma, or other coal related illnesses. 

 

Gov,

Good points!!  I too am supportive of nuclear energy, in particular, as well as other alternative energy sources.

Was speaking to someone recently who has worked in the nuclear power field and learned that over 40 applications have been filed for new nuclear plants in this country.

Unfortunately, we have lost some of the basic manufacturing infrastructure needed to build reactors. Prior to the collapse of the indusatry in this country, there were two manufacturers of the pressure vessels used in reactor construction. They have gone out of business. Now the only manufacturer of these vessels is located in Japan and they currently have a 4 year backorder.

In addition, we've have also lost a lot of the technological edge we once held.  Now it appears that France is the technology leader. What a shame.

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Re: To the defensors of nuclear energy
Governor 05-16-2008, 5:13 PM | Post #2518644
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I have read that about Japan and France but have no doubt that we can regain both the basic mfg. infrastructure (with some well placed subsidies probably).

In addition, we've have also lost a lot of the technological edge we once held.

Something we can thank Carter for, right Chang?

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Re: To the defensors of nuclear energy
robertts12 05-16-2008, 5:13 PM | Post #2518645
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It's not so difficult, Def.  It can be compared with a solar panel. In a solar panel, the energy (light) is converted in electricity when it comes to the panel. In this revolutionary reactor, the radiation is converted directly in electricity when it comes to those nanotubes. Perhaps the refference to efficiency are exagerated.  Even if it's the half as stated, it's  fantastic..
I read the link
mshimko 05-16-2008, 9:02 PM | Post #2518724
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I'm not sure what it reminded me of more;  the "U-Tube" video that many claimed showed the benefits of burning water, or the stuff about covering the Gulf of Mexico to reduce hurricanes.

//mjs

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Re: I read the link
robertts12 05-16-2008, 9:08 PM | Post #2518726
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Mshimko, use the name of the scientists to find other links about this technology.
 

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Why?
mshimko 05-16-2008, 9:12 PM | Post #2518728
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There was enough info in the link to get a pretty good flavor of what there was, and wasn't, if you think about ut technically and critically.

//mjs

Gov/France
jimd71 05-17-2008, 11:04  | Post #2518881
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While France/Japan and other countries have taken greater advantage than us of nuclear electricity generation, the thrifty Swiss are profiting as a country.

Historically Switzerland’s power generation basis has thus been mainly based on hydropower and nuclear energy  -  95%  nuclear/hydro and only 5% "thermal" (coal/oil/natural gas). They took advantage of being a mountainous country by constructing large reservoirs high in the Alps with companion reservoirs far below..Electricity is used to run reversible pump/generators that pump water into the upper reservoir during "off-peak" times when electricity is cheap and release water from the upper reservoir to generate electricity for sale during peak periods when prices are high.

 

Only the Swiss could have come up with this concept – buy electricity from France and other surrounding countries when it’s cheap, and thensell it back to them when it’s expensive! They only have to sit there watching the water going up and down while they line their pockets.

The Daily Kos http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/3/61410/6465

did an interesting piece recently on "New Approaches to Pumped Hydro" which didn't mention nuclear (surprise!) or the remarkable Swiss concept.

The US has a lot to learn from others which would be much more productive than what we've been doing. jim 

 


 

 

Stromproduktion 2005_Kraftwerkkategorien

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Re: To the defensors of nuclear energy
Pat Morgan 05-17-2008, 12:09 PM | Post #2518896
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Governor:

Yes, we have never had a single fatality from nuclear power but lose hundreds each year in the coal mines not to mention the hundreds of thousands who suffer from black lung, asthma, or other coal related illnesses. 

Who do you include among the we?  How about the 31 who died from radiation exposure within three months after the Chernobyl accident.  How about the 3 who died during the SL-1 reactor accident at the National Reactor Testing Station in Idaho.

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EagleTed 05-17-2008, 1:21 PM | Post #2518923
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Pat Morgan:
Governor:

Yes, we have never had a single fatality from nuclear power but lose hundreds each year in the coal mines not to mention the hundreds of thousands who suffer from black lung, asthma, or other coal related illnesses. 

Who do you include among the we?  How about the 31 who died from radiation exposure within three months after the Chernobyl accident.  How about the 3 who died during the SL-1 reactor accident at the National Reactor Testing Station in Idaho.

34 people?

I can see why the radical left is so afraid of nuclear power. Really, we need speed limits set at 45, because we lose that many people on the roads every what? Hour?