What McCain said, if you listen to the who text, was very clear.

McCain THINKS we'll have have the situation "won" by 2013, but McCain refuses to offer up an artifical timetable that will only enbolden the enemy.

What's not clear about this?

//mjs

def:

"We are succeeding in Iraq.  We will have succeeded further in Iraq in 2013."

I just thought the sentence above was kinda funny.
- Something more like the current Bush would say - than what the next Bush would say.
- Thats all

And I wonder how all this fits with the current Bush's unilateral negotiations to continue the occupation after this year.  The negotiations that are not a treaty and that the next Bush won't get to ratify. 

And I wonder where the troops are gonna come from. 

Can't wait till that comes up in a debate...

 Empiring mines wont to no