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ganesha 05-15-2008, 1:38 PM | Post #2518138 |  6 Replies
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I was wondering if any of the learned investors on this site (Erryl, UH, etc.) have any feeling about investing in solar energy.  Does it seem like a good investment at this time? If so, is there a fund that has this, or how would be the best way to invest?  Would it be more for the long term?  Thanks for your input/advice.

Ganesha
 

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Re: Solar Energy
DeerIslander 05-15-2008, 1:50 PM | Post #2518143
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This is an interesting field. I have had a fairly large position in an ETF (GEX) thtat is a global alternative energy fund that mostly holds solar and wind. There is also a PBW -- but it lacks the global positioning that GEX has. Personally I am not smart enough to pick a winner in the alternative energy space except to know I want to avoid ethanol and I even own some nuclear.

Recently there have been two new ETFs -- KWT and TAN -- which are solar only. I have not looked at their portfolios but TAN is more liquid.

There may be mutual funds but I don't follow them since I like the liquidity of ETFs.

Yesterday I added to my GEX position as a possible short-term trade.HERE See post 2517732. Don't short-term trade unless you know what you are doing.

Make sure you do thorough due diligence on the area and the vehicle you choose.

Good luck.

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Re: Solar Energy
erryl 05-15-2008, 8:34 PM | Post #2518302
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I can't help you with a specific investment... you got better advice than I could give you from DI.  I think that an ETF would be a better way to go than buying a single company.

There is some political risk with alternative energy, for sure.  There is also a market risk that oil prices might drop, which could easily cause some drop in alternative energy stocks.  High oil prices are good for alternative energy and vice versa.

I'm afraid of taking a big investment in solar... I think that trading in these stocks might be a good thing, because the stocks are volatile.  This volatility should scare the passive buy-and-hold (for quite awhile, but not necessarily forever) investor, like me.

erryl

 

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Re: Solar Energy
norbertc 05-16-2008, 7:50 AM | Post #2518438
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Germany - which has about half of the world's solar installations and is third behind Japan and China on solar cell production - may be adjusting industry subsidies downwards.  Don't know. 

Read HERE.  Just a "Heads up!" on GEX and other renewables plays.

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Re: Solar Energy
mikec 05-16-2008, 8:23 AM | Post #2518457
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This is a typical NYT article [see norbertc].   It is ridiculously short on important facts.  It doesn't tell how much the subsidy is per KWH, and it doesn't tell the KWH's generated per installed KW solar panel. 
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Re: Solar Energy
norbertc 05-16-2008, 9:28 AM | Post #2518476
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Hi Mike,

Try this LINK to the German Environmental Ministry.  There are documents with the subsidy details (in English) that you can open there.  Unfortunately, I don't see anything concerning Merkel's proposed reductions.

Let us know if you find those somewhere.

Norbert 

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Re: Solar Energy-Whatr are the Subsidies?
mikec 05-17-2008, 9:15 PM | Post #2519032
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Hi Norbert.

I poked around the German Ministry site but couldn't find the subsidy.  However after reading a dozen articles, I did find that the French subsidy was 0.55 euros/kwh [$0.80/kwh], California's going to subsidize at $0.39/kwh, and Washington [state] at $.55/kwh.  The German subsidy is apparently slightly less then France's.

Obviously, these subsidies are crazy.  This is no doubt why the NYT's didn't include the subsidy amount in their article.  It was "forgotten" on purpose.

I feel it's likely that in 10 years, PV solar power will be economical [due to high sunlight, low land cost, and/or  proximity to power user] in certain places like Mexico, Arizona, New Mexico etc.  But not Germany, not in this century.  

 

 

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