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Clinton wins WV big
EagleTed 05-13-2008, 8:37 PM | Post #2517560 |  18 Replies
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Historically, I understand that no Democrat has ever been elected president who hasn't won their party's primary in WV, since 1916. Streaks are made to be broke, but it makes sense that a state holding it's primary so late in the game would go to the eventual nominee.

Bad omen for Obama. 

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Re: Clinton wins WV big
Santa Cruz 05-13-2008, 8:40 PM | Post #2517563
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Yes!

It looks like we can watch the Demos hang from the end of a rope that much longer! 

Re: Clinton wins WV big
mwleach 05-13-2008, 8:54 PM | Post #2517567
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You may be right, Ted.  My understanding is that what they were saying is that no Democrat has won the White House in a long time without winning West Virginia in the general election.  That still is a fair point, since the results show Obama is not very likely to win WV in the fall.

The exit pollint data is somewhat troubling for the campaign in the general election.  However, this is not going to effect the outcome of the Democratic nomination.

Now if Hillary had upset Obama last week in NC, it would have been entirely different - the Democratic party would today be shaken to its core; a few good, hard blows struck in the right places might have been able to split it wide open.  (Ah, what might have been :-)

As it is, IMO Obama will be the nominee, Hillary will at least unofficially concede in the June 4-13 time frame, and the party will united behind Obama who will go into the fall the favorite - but weakened enough that it will still be a horse race.

MWL

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Re: Clinton wins WV big
mwleach 05-13-2008, 8:57 PM | Post #2517570
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10 PM eastern, with over 40% of the vote in - Clinton may just win it better than 2-1 (over 2/3 of the vote).  Now that's what I'd call a landslide.

MWL

Re: Clinton wins WV big
EagleTed 05-13-2008, 8:59 PM | Post #2517572
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It's pretty obvious Obama can't win WV in the fall, Clinton possibly could, we'll never know.

 

Re: Clinton wins WV big
EagleTed 05-13-2008, 9:02 PM | Post #2517573
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mwleach:

10 PM eastern, with over 40% of the vote in - Clinton may just win it better than 2-1 (over 2/3 of the vote).  Now that's what I'd call a landslide.

MWL

Those darn Scotch-Irish keep clinging to guns and prayer. Most figure you don't have a prayer if you don't have a gun. 

Re: Clinton wins WV big
EagleTed 05-13-2008, 9:17 PM | Post #2517586
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Clinton 65% to 28% Obama, Edwards with 7%.

Wow. 

Re: Clinton wins WV big
mwleach 05-13-2008, 9:23 PM | Post #2517589
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Edwards with 7%?  Now THAT is interesting.

Ted, how many evenings in the past few weeks do you suspect Edwards has chugged down a few shots in that mansion of his and kicked himself for having dropped out so soon?  He probably still would not have won, but he could have been THE power broker and written his own ticket.

MWL

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Re: Clinton wins WV big
EagleTed 05-13-2008, 9:34 PM | Post #2517598
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mwleach:

Edwards with 7%?  Now THAT is interesting.

Ted, how many evenings in the past few weeks do you suspect Edwards has chugged down a few shots in that mansion of his and kicked himself for having dropped out so soon?  He probably still would not have won, but he could have been THE power broker and written his own ticket.

MWL

Might have been interesting, especially in NC. 

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Re: Clinton wins WV big
snray 05-14-2008, 9:59 AM | Post #2517718
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MWL:

Edwards simply didn't have the campaign funds to continue the fight. He had to drop out or go bankrupt.

I agree this is an interesting win for Hillary. I'm wondering now: where did Obama pick up all his delegates? Was it California? He hasn't had a really big win in some time.

Sam

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Re: Clinton wins WV big
EagleTed 05-14-2008, 10:10 AM | Post #2517723
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Final count:

Clinton 67%

Obama 26%

Edwards 7%

Clinton picks up 20 delegates to Obama's 8

Too little, too late. 

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sensei 05-14-2008, 11:19 AM | Post #2517752
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Re: Clinton wins WV big
mldeerslayer 05-14-2008, 2:57 PM | Post #2517807
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mwleach:

 

As it is, IMO Obama will be the nominee, Hillary will at least unofficially concede in the June 4-13 time frame, and the party will united behind Obama who will go into the fall the favorite - but weakened enough that it will still be a horse race.

MWL, you're 'poor mouthing' again. There's no way that BO will go into the fall as the favorite. He may be in national polls, but they're worthless. McCain leads now based on state polls and the corresponding electoral college delegates and he will keep that lead into the fall.

ML

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Re: Clinton wins WV big
mldeerslayer 05-14-2008, 3:04 PM | Post #2517808
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