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SWBDX has gone toxic!
ziggy29 03-11-2008, 5:25 PM | Post #2496747 |  10 Replies
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For the longest time this fund (Schwab Short Term Bond) was rock-solid through all the uncertainty since November. Suddenly, last week it started melting down. Keep in mind that it was flat to rising through all this mortgage mess until a week ago. And now, it's been "look out below." I don't suppose there's anyone in the know about this fund or what's so toxic in it?

At first I thought it might have been the Fannies and Freddies but now I'm not so sure. It's been just about the worst bond fund on the planet over the last few days. If it's a short-term irrational market action, I'll wait it out, but I just want to make sure this fund doesn't become the next SWYPX.

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Re: SWBDX has gone toxic!
VinoSupremo 03-12-2008, 1:13 PM | Post #2497027
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I barely got out of SWYPX in time--still took a hit.  Last I checked, SWYPX went to Two Stars on Morningstar  As to Schwab Short Term Bond Fund, watch its dividend payout at end of month and compare to previous monthly dividends.  I'm sitting in the same boat with you. 
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Re: SWBDX has gone toxic!
ziggy29 03-12-2008, 2:44 PM | Post #2497051
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I'm another SWYPX refugee -- got out when the NAV had only dropped 3%, when the NAV was in the $9.60s.  Last I saw it was down  to $8.20 or so.  Not good for something marketed as an alternative to "cash."

I'm wary of waiting to the end of the month.  I consider an investment-grade short term bond fund as a LOW volatility asset class  which I hold to reduce volatility, not enhance it.

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Re: SWBDX has gone toxic!
VinoSupremo 03-27-2008, 5:47 PM | Post #2502420
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I am not sure if it is toxic--but it is certainly not well.  Perhaps, dare I say, even sick. As a short term bond fund its performance seems out of sync with other such funds.  In particular a comparison with VFSTX perhpas illustrates the problem.  Part of the problem may be traceable to the fact that--per Morningstar-- VFSTX only has 12.9% in mortgage whereas SWBDX has 30.14% in mortgage.  And they are not GNMA quality--SWBDX has 29.37% in Mortgage CMO,  In addtion, note that SWBDX portfolio is weak with 5.2% of its holdings NOT rated.  In addition 14% is BBB or lower in quality.  In short it is running at a higher risk level than one might expect.  T.
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Re: SWBDX has gone toxic!
banand 03-30-2008, 5:01 PM | Post #2503444
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Hi Ziggy/VinoSupremo, sorry for a slightly unrelated post...I'm a reporter with a business publication doing research on SWLBX and SWYPX.  I'm writing a story and am looking to speak to investors who own or had owned these funds to hear their thoughts/experience. Would you be willing to talk to me on the record about this? Email your response to bubblesanand@yahoo.com. Thanks very much!
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Re: SWBDX has gone toxic!
VinoSupremo 03-31-2008, 9:29 AM | Post #2503667
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I just sent you an e-mail asking for more info
Re: SWBDX has gone toxic!
piemel 03-31-2008, 1:50 PM | Post #2503752
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what publication lets their reporters use yahoo accounts?

Re: SWBDX has gone toxic!
VinoSupremo 03-31-2008, 3:04 PM | Post #2503769
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The reporter was using a yahoo account to esablish contact without revealing that a particular publication was working up a story.  It was/is legit and verified
Re: SWBDX has gone toxic!
piemel 03-31-2008, 4:21 PM | Post #2503796
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VinoSupremo:
The reporter was using a yahoo account to esablish contact without revealing that a particular publication was working up a story.  It was/is legit and verified

 

Aaah that makes complete sense...

Sorry 'bout that

Re: SWBDX has gone toxic!
VinoSupremo 04-03-2008, 10:26 PM | Post #2505036
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I bailed out of the fund today Apr 3.  By the way it set a new low today for no reason I could discern.
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Re: SWBDX has gone toxic!
VinoSupremo 04-11-2008, 7:02 PM | Post #2507485
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An article in today's WSJ (April 11) talks about Schwab's SWYPX--The Web Page link to the article had a lead quite similar to the title of this original post on the Schwab Short Term Bond Fund--Schwab Fund Turned Toxic

Great minds think alike? :-)

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