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Handson, Tracking Jan. 31, 2008
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ben egbert
01-31-2008, 5:10 PM | Post #2483007 |
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FUND ENDING TOT RETURN VTSMX $33.21 LATER DIA_(DJIA) $126 -6.51% IWM_(R2K) $70.94 -8.83% SPY_(SP500) $137.37 -7.73% GLOBAL $16,213 -4.34% ENERGY $64.323 -7.23% INDEX ENDING SP500 1378.55 DJIA 12650.36 NASDAQ 2389.86 Last months results: The link feature is not working on my computer. Here is the address to last months post for anyone who is able to get the link working. http://socialize.morningstar.com/NewSocialize/forums/2/2471058/ShowThread.aspx Ben
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Ben’s results, -5.12% YTD
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ben egbert
01-31-2008, 6:04 PM | Post #2483028
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My results are -5.12% YTD using Bobbi’s simple method and -5.16% with Dons and -5.16% with XIRR. Behind VTSMX 2.01% from June 2001. I have no target allocation goals, but I currently have 4.2 years worth of living expenses in fixed. Current portfolio is: LIVING EXPENSES FUNDS: (17% of total) 17% Cash (Emigrant Direct and CD) Equity: (79% of total) 9% MPGFX (Mairs and Powers) 12% RYTRX (Royce total return) 11% DODIX (Dodge and Cox bond fund) 10% LLPFX (Longleaf Partners) 16% DODGX (Dodge and Cox Stock fund) 20% DODFX (Dodge and Cox International) 5% TAVFX (Third Ave Value) My asset allocation including cash/bonds in funds is currently: 17% Cash 11% bond fund 21% foreign 51% Domestic funds Sold some LLPFX and added to DODIX to keep my fixed above 4 years. Ben
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Re: Handson, Tracking Jan. 31, 2007
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bobbinm
01-31-2008, 7:25 PM | Post #2483044
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Bobbi’s Down 2.57%
This
portfolio includes all of my investments and cash. I am 59, my husband is 62.
We are entering our 8th year of retirement with no pension however
Jay will get his first Social Security check in February. This changes our need
for income from this portfolio. His SS plus interest on the MM fund (if it
stays above 3%) and the mortgage payment we receive each month will cover our
basic income needs. We will still use income from this portfolio for travel,
special projects and gifts.
Equity 55%*
Mutual Funds: DODBX, DODFX, DODGX, FLPSX, MAPIX
* 37% of equity is foreign
Reit Fund: FRESX
Stocks: BAC, CVX, GGB, LYG, RRD, UL, WOR
ETFs: DVY, DIA
Bonds & Cash 45%:
Active Bond Funds: DODBX, DODIX
Farm Mortgage, Treasury Bills (6 months) and Money Market
Portfolio expenses = 0.49%
YTD cumulative withdrawal = .56% (Uncle Sam got his share)
I continue to be ahead of my bogey, DODBX (down 3.11%
ytd). Who would have guessed?....Bank of America was my best performer (up 7%)
Bobbi
psst.....Ben you need to edit your title to 2008
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Re: Handson, Tracking Jan. 31, 2008
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ben egbert
01-31-2008, 8:59 PM | Post #2483089
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Gotcha Bobbi, living in the past. Ben
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Anil's down 2.7% in Jan08
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AKHalea
01-31-2008, 9:37 PM | Post #2483107
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My overall portfolio is doing OK considering we have suffered roughly half the loss of the indices, thanks to cash & bonds in the portfolio. They have performed their job of reducing volatility. I also happen to have been a little lucky on timing. I had to roll over a former employer 401K, and seeing that there was no Santa rally in Dec, I figured it was a good time to roll it over : | Portfolio | | Relative P/B | | P/B | S&P500 | (Port vs S&P) | | Portfolio | 2.29 | 2.68 | 85.4% | | FAIRX | 1.64 | | 61.2% | | Exp Ratio | 0.70% | | | | Divvy Yld= | 1.9% | | | | | | | | M-Star Style box | % | | | | End07 | 4Jan08 | | Total | | 100.0 | 100.0 | | Cash: | | 20.9 | 32.2 | | U.S. Stocks: | 35.4 | 30.3 | | Foreign Stocks: | 28.8 | 24.7 | | Bonds: | | 13.1 | 11.2 | | Other: | | 1.8 | 1.5 | | | | | | | | Port % | S&P500 | | LCValue | | 36.3 | 45.1 | | LCGrowth | 28.0 | 43.8 | | Sm/Mid CapValue | 20.8 | 6.3 | | Sm/Mid CapGrowth | 14.9 | 4.8 | | Not Classified | 0.0 | 0.0 |
I initiated the process by liquidating all holdings in that 401K, and started the rollover process on Jan 4. As a result, I had about 33% in cash (vs 21% cash before starting rollover) which did help, but not as much as I thought :-(( I am not sure when I will get that added cash back into the market. I guess I will be watching for a few low entry points (however, it is quite possible I may have missed that opportunity)...... Best wishes ..... Anil
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Re: Herb's down 2.69% in Jan08
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HerbDeno
02-01-2008, 6:36 AM | Post #2483171
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YTD Portfolio performance 1/31/2008 Overall –2.69% Individual stocks –5.04% Bond Funds +1.34%
Equity Funds –4.18%
Asset Allocation Bond Funds 34.71% Stock Funds 24.97% Individual Stocks 38.04% Tradable Cash 2.28%
Style box: LV 22 LC 31 LG 32 MV 4 MC 5 MG 3 SV 1 MC 2 SG 0 Individual Fund Performance YTD PRWCX -2.26% TRP Capital Appreciation Fund RPMGX –8.57% TRP Mid Cap Growth Fund RPSIX +0.20% TRP Spectrum Income Fund TRMCX –3.07% TRP Mid Cap Value Fund VBIIX +2.10 % Vanguard Intermediate Bond Index Fund VFIIX +1.38% Vanguard GNMA Fund VFSTX +1.53%Vanguard Short Term Investment Grade Bond Fund VWNFX –5.76% Vanguard Windsor II Fund
Stocks that have moved up at all or down more than 5% YTD
CSCO –9.86% (+2.77 since I added some shares this week) MMM –5.54% MSFT –8.43% NOC +1.22% ORCL –9.26 PFE +3.07% RFMD –43.43% RIG –15.11% XOM –8.84% YHOO –17.54% ZMH +17.40% Comments: Added some shares of CSCO earlier this week. CNBC just announced that MSFT has made an offer to buy YHOO. Since I have shares of each it may get interesting. Mergers can be signs of a bottom. Best to all, Herb
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Re: Ron's down 6.93% in Jan08
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oppeg
02-01-2008, 9:36 AM | Post #2483228
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US Stock 41.16% Foreign Stock 52.69% Cash 3.64% Bonds 3.51% Sold: JORNX, DODGX, UMBIX. Bought: JAVLX, BRAIX, DBA(Agri.Index), VEU, ADRE and KO. I'm an upgrader so I have more changes every month than the average bear Regards,Ron
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WERman
02-01-2008, 11:08 AM | Post #2483276
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I retired at the end of 2001 and I'm using this portfolio
for growth and income. I intend to withdraw about 4.8% (valuation as of 12/31/07) during 2008. But lately
we've been looking at new cars so you never know. We're looking for something
small, like a VW bug, PT Cruiser, Smartcar, or MiniCooper. This is predominately a large-cap growth portfolio,
according to M*, comprised of 33 stocks. It's a good thing I'm retired because
portfolio mangement takes a lot of my time. It's something I enjoy doing. I
tried investing in mutual funds and I failed. I can't handle it. I'll always be
a stock investor.
9 9
23
3 18 16
8 7
5
I don't have a target allocation. Right now it's 77% U.S.
stocks, 16% foreign stocks, 7% cash. Although we have some gold and silver
bullion and coins, amounting to about 15%, I don't include that in my portfolio
review or tracking. Aside from that the performance figures are for the whole
enchilada.
Industry Groups
My five largest industry groups are:
- Oil
& Gas, 14.4%
- Insurance,
13.8%
- Retail,
11.2%
- Health
Care, 10.0%
- Banks,
7.5%
Largest Holdings
- American
Eagle (AEO), Retail--Apparel
- Buffalo
Wild Wings (BWLD), Restaurants
- Copart
(CPRT), Services--Commercial & Prof.
- Berkshire
Hathaway (BRK/B), Insurance-Property & Casualty
- Bed
Bath & Beyond (BBBY), Retail--Homefurnishing
- Allied
Irish Banks (AIB), Banks--Foreign
- Norsk
Hydro (NHYDY), Aluminum
- Helmerich
& Payne (HP), Oil & Gas--Drilling
- Coventry
Health Care (CVH), Health Care-Managed Care
- Strayer
Education (STRA), Services--Education
Performance
MFSFX is My Financial Success Fund. For HO tracking purposes
I compare MFSFX with VFINX because the results are current. At home I use the
S&P500 TR, the results of January won't be published by S&P for another
week or so.
MFSFX VFINX
- 1 mo
-3.7% -6.0%
- 3 mo
-4.5% -10.6%
- 1 yr
15.3% -2.4%
- 3 yr
11.3% 7.2%
- 5 yr
14.0% 11.9%
- 12/01
11.7% 6.7% Retirement
date
- 10 yr*
8.8% 5.8%
*- as of 12/31/07
All figures over 1 yr are
annualized.
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Toni B
02-01-2008, 11:10 AM | Post #2483277
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My husbands & my retirement portfolio has been in Vanguard Star, Wellesley, & Wellington Funds for decades and remain there in our retirement, Rebalance every January 2nd back to 1/3rd in each. Make our yearly drawdown at that time putting the money in Vanguard MM fund. Draw on that through the year to suppliment SS. Dividends & interest earned by the funds are always enough to cover the drawdown. Principal left to grow. Portfolio returns Year To Date Vanguard Star -3.69% 33.07% of portfolio. Vanguard Wellesley -0.82% 32.02% of portfolio. Vanguard Wellington -2.85% 33.96% of portfolio. For portfolio as a whole: -2.46% Year To Date. Not pretty, but better than the S&P500. That portfolio as a whole is about 55% stock--45% bonds. It is months like January, 2008 that make one appreciate bonds. Humberto Cruse, a financial columist, wrote last week that a portfolio with no bonds is like the New York Giants going into the Super Bowl Sunday without any defensive team. Saying that a good offense is all that is needed to beat  | |