I for one am glad to see them leave. Maybe now this forum can get back to discussing all Vanguard funds, without  them insulting you.I have some index funds, but I also have  managed funds and I must say over the past 27 years I have made a lot more money on managed funds.  I think M* Casey should remove Boggleheads from the top of this forum, Vanguard Diehards only.  I would also like to see more posters from the Dan Wiener forum.  Before you could never mention Dan Wiener. Maybe they won't be afraid to post here now.  I read his monthly news letter and his weekly hotline report and I think he's a very smart man.