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Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL nantucket9 12-21-2008, 2:06 PM | Post #2606971 | 30 Replies

Right now, taking any goal you choose (income, growth, big discount, etc.): what would be your favorite CEF to invest in, and why?

I'll go first: I would (and have) invest in GLO or GLV: two Clough global funds. They are managed very well and I think once the world returns to "normality" the NAV will rise, discount close, and distribution scheme continue and grow over time.

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    Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL Dwight 12-21-2008, 2:31 PM | PostID #2606976
    My choice for right now and in the future would be the very fine bond fund ACG. Good return, good perfomance, large fund , very actively traded. Since I switched from some Loomis Sayles funds a few months ago, I get a +10% distribution and the market value is up over 10%. In this market, this is a 5 star perfromance by any standards. For the future when I agree when some sanity returns, the High Yields will sky rocket. I like Pioneer High Yield (PHT).
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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL skelly36 12-21-2008, 3:03 PM | PostID #2606981

    Good Afternoon....

     Reasons for investments are always tied to individual analysis, charts, etc....

     With that said, the chart shows my current best favorite investment in portfolio http://tinyurl.com/9nnwzn

    Have a "GREAT" Xmas and a "VERY" Happy New Year....

    Best Regards/Eddie....

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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL capecod 12-21-2008, 3:43 PM | PostID #2606988

    Thanks.  Did some further research after following your link.  JGG sings to me.

    Regards, Dick

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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL Aalan88 12-21-2008, 8:20 PM | PostID #2607047

     At the moment, I'm feeling very warm and fuzzy about MGU, which I think has great upside potential. But if you "follow the money", I've put a lot more into FAX.

    I will also have a look at JGG when I get a chance.

     

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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL Maine72 12-22-2008, 4:06 AM | PostID #2607109
    I also like ACG and JGG. JGG I can't figure why it has been so beat up and can't get its market value up, but I know now how little I knew about CEF's!! Still I'm not running away from them and do believe their are good opportunities now and one can still obtain nice yields for future income. Have a Great Holiday All !!!
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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL Jarsplus 12-22-2008, 6:46 AM | PostID #2607126

    KSM -

    Mixed grade Muni CEF at 17% discount.

    Yield around 9%, recently raised distribution (don't know if that will last), positive UNII

    Levered, but about 1/3 of the portfolio is ETM/pre-refunded

    Disclaimer- long and adding

     Jarsplus

     

     

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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL capecod 12-22-2008, 7:58 AM | PostID #2607138

    Jars....not challenging but interested in where you get details....like current UNII.  Also, don't know what ETM stands for.  Finally, since (per ETFConnect) only 16% = AAA, how does that square with 1/3 pre=refunded or ETN (which I presume is similarly credit perfecting??).

    Thanks in advance, Dick

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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL knobby62 12-22-2008, 9:33 AM | PostID #2607169
    I've been putting money into mgf and min lately. Chart link
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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL knobby62 12-22-2008, 9:42 AM | PostID #2607174
    Must mention I last bought into MGF in October.  It is now trading at a premium, so probably not the best time for a purchase. Chamois had mentioned them a few months ago, so decided in October to jump in.
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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL Jarsplus 12-22-2008, 10:06 AM | PostID #2607187

    Dick

    I appreciate the questions as I am relatively new to CEFs and am trying to learn from you and others on this board.  Questions help me better my understanding of investments.

    ETM = Escrowed To Maturity. 

    The ETM/pre-refunded percentage (36%) and UNII ($983,179/10,945,306 shares = $.0898/share) figures are both from the latest N-CSRS http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/846596/000008805308000769/sr053108smi.htm

    The report is as of May 31, so it is dated.  If anyone has any more current info, I would appreciate hearing it.  The Dec distribution bump is from  https://www.dws-investments.com/EN/docs/about-us/press-releases/KSM_Press_Release_Dec_08.pdf

    Jarsplus

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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL chamois 12-22-2008, 10:45 AM | PostID #2607202

    I guess the key phrase is "at the moment."  Here are my favorite  CEF at the moment in each of the main asset classes, but it doesn't mean I would buy all of them at the moment, given economic and market uncertainties in the months ahead.  Best  wishes.

    Equity-EVT     Bond-ACG     REIT-IGR    Muni-NAD   Floating Rate-PHD    HY-HIX 

     

     

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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL jagor 12-22-2008, 1:07 PM | PostID #2607222

    My favorite has to be GIM—the Templeton Global Income fund.

    According to Morningstar data, it’s up +7.98% YTD, is yielding 12.57%, has an expense ratio of just 0.74% and is selling at a -5.07% discount.

    Way to go, Michael Hasenstab!

    Is there anything better than this baby? 

    Jagor

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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL Bobitybob 12-22-2008, 2:13 PM | PostID #2607245

    It's so difficult to seperate my brokerage from IRA accounts.Am now going for IGR & BGR in IRA. Brokerage is HQL.

    Being retired and living off brokerage account for a while it is not easy to decide what belongs where but CEF have allowed peaceful sleep. 

    Bob. 

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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL oldjack 12-22-2008, 3:13 PM | PostID #2607267
    Due to the poor market conditions, my favorite is MIN, followed closely by ACG and GIM.  I've been adding to all three lately.
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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL jpwrist 12-22-2008, 4:05 PM | PostID #2607283

    Good question and comments.

    I can tell you what I am holding and one would assume that they would be my favorites.  If not, why am I holding them?  I can't say that I like some of them as much as when they were trading higher.  PMO, NVG, NIO, NZF, HPI, PHD, ETG, ETB, WIW, AWP, IGR.

    I also note that many of the favorites mentioned by the others in this thread, have held up relatively well durng this difficult market time.  Are we looking at the market with a rear view mirror?

     Jos

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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL norbertc 12-22-2008, 4:06 PM | PostID #2607286

    oldjack:
    Due to the poor market conditions, my favorite is MIN, followed closely by ACG and GIM.  I've been adding to all three lately.

    Excellent picks IMHO.  Almost a complete bond portfolio.

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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL comico 12-22-2008, 9:01 PM | PostID #2607361
    jpwrist:

    Good question and comments.

    I can tell you what I am holding and one would assume that they would be my favorites.  If not, why am I holding them?  I can't say that I like some of them as much as when they were trading higher.  PMO, NVG, NIO, NZF, HPI, PHD, ETG, ETB, WIW, AWP, IGR.

    I also note that many of the favorites mentioned by the others in this thread, have held up relatively well durng this difficult market time.  Are we looking at the market with a rear view mirror?

     Jos

    You've got a point there, but I see a lot of people posting that they expect 2009 to be like 2008, only worse.  So maybe it's not such a bad idea for them to view the market with a rearview mirror over a short timeframe.

    I'm a hopeless optimist, and I tend to think 2009 will be better (not much, but enough to matter).  I've been choosing otherwise solid CEFs in more beaten down sectors, MGU and IGR in particular.  If we get a good sell-off in 1Q 2009, I'm planning on picking up more of these.

    comico

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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL capecod 12-23-2008, 8:09 AM | PostID #2607454

    Hi Jagor...not a challenge to you, but I'm very interested in figuring out wild discrepancy on GIM between M* and ETFConnect.  ETF reports that GIM is DOWN 9.22% YTD on market price, UP 1.83% on NAV.  I calculated distribution yield as 6.64% ($.042 X 12 / $7.58).   Anybody have any idea what's up here?  These are pretty decisive differences in buy/sell decision criteria!

    Regards, Dick

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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL jagor 12-23-2008, 8:23 AM | PostID #2607459

    To Dick, I, too, was pretty astonished at those Morningstar figures.  I always cite the source when I post information on these forums.  But as I have written eslewhere, the ultimate source for information about any fund is the fund company itself.  We would need to check with someone at Franklin Templeton, preferably fund manager Michael Hasenstab himself.  The most reliable information comes straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

    I also checked out MIN. Smith-Barney has a good analysts' report on it.  They have a lot of good things to say about MIN--primarily a high-quality portfolio--but caution that the managed distribution policy could cause problems in the long-term.  One good thing; MIN is not leveraged.

    Jagor 

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  • Re: Your favorite CEF at the moment? POLL binturong 12-23-2008, 12:09 PM | PostID #2607549

    Hi Dick,

    At least part of the problem may be because ETFConnect never reports the special end of year distribution of NII that GIM regularly makes.  Here is  the announcement from 2007 and here is this year's, $0.6088 and $0.8807 respectively.  I didn't check earlier years, but assume they are similar.  This chart, if set from 31 Dec 07 to 22 Dec 08, shows a YTD gain of about 7%, so they are taking into account the EOY that ETFConnect misses.

    Put me down for GIM as my current favorite.  It maintains its NAV over the years, has come through the current credit crisis well, provides foreign currency exposure, and pays a respectable yield entirely from NII.  It also appeals to me because it is one of the few small successes that CEF have provided for me during this market turmoil.  I first got into it in earrly October at a 17% discount, got a nice surprise with the EOY special distribution, added to my position on x-d date near the day's low, and have watched it go up since.  So far, so good. 

     

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