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If oil goes to $100/Bbl and natural gas
judyken 01-22-2006, 9:29 AM | Post #165641 |  49 Replies
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skyrockets (electricity will obviously rise dramatically), what would you do to save on these increasing costs?

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Electric energy consumption
robertts12 04-29-2007, 4:17 PM | Post #2380894
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What is a reasonable electric energy consumption? Many posters wrote we have R20, R30 and this and that, so our house is very good. Then I thought about what can be considered reasonable. Then I look for some bills. My conclusion is that a house with 4 persons should use below 300 kwh a month, with no other source for heating or cooling and with no independent source of energy. I hope that you see that my standards are more exigent than yours, therefore some ideas seems strange for guys that have R30 and so on and think nothing more should be done. To calculate the number (300 kwh) I considered a time when the consuption is increaded by one person that have cancer and therefore uses more electricity. If I considered other time, the result would be lower. I remember in other times bills with 50 kwh.
The houses that I know are all a primitive garbage, in my opinion.

Originally posted in thread: 211
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All of our worst fears...
LondonRoad 04-29-2007, 6:10 PM | Post #2380923
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This post originated on 01/22/2006....2006. All of our worst fears have not materialized have they?

While I appreciate those who take it upon themselves to conserve and those who don't use resources in a reckless mannner, I have seen people spend more in terms of money and time in the name of "conservation" than what the "conservation" returns to them.

It really all comes down to "costs and benefits" and one's time/planning horizons.

Originally posted in thread: 211
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No, writer of post 32
robertts12 04-29-2007, 6:23 PM | Post #2380925
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I'm not angry, Londonroad.
robertts12 04-29-2007, 6:46 PM | Post #2380929
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I like that you express your opinion.
For me, it's a question about how the world should be.
I remember other oil problems in the past, certainly they were not so important for you as for me.

Originally posted in thread: 211
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Energy prices are going up...
Nagorak 04-29-2007, 11:52 PM | Post #2381000
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Robertts12...Memory
LondonRoad 04-30-2007, 11:21 AM | Post #2381125
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I don't know what you remember but I remember when people were debating on where to build their "bomb shelters" which happened to turn into very good root cellars for those who gardened enough.

Question for you: Are you just a very zealous conservationist or a "survivalist" in disguise?

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Robertts12
LondonRoad 05-01-2007, 11:06 AM | Post #2381595
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Londonroad
robertts12 05-01-2007, 3:37 PM | Post #2381691
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Try
robertts12 12-20-2007, 8:29 AM | Post #2467010
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indoor camping.
Try indoor camping
robertts12 12-20-2007, 2:37 PM | Post #2467171
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If oil is too high, try indoor camping. What do I mean? Buy a good hut, tent, one you could use in Alasca and mount it in your house so that you can sleep without any heating.
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Tips
ernie 12-26-2007, 10:56 AM | Post #2469114
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My dad graduated high school in 1929, I learned a lot of tips from him, and have discovered many myself.

1.  Insulation is about dead air space.  Stacking newspapers is a good way to get rid of old papers and create a fire hazard. Throw them out and insulate your attic space to R39 up, R49 is better.  Insulate your crawl space. Always think "dead air". If you have windows, they are "cold" radiators.  Dad used to put a layer of sheet plastic outside to create a dead air space. I have double glazed windows ( had to replace anyway) and they help some, but  are not that efficient. What is efficient is a good interior window covering. I used honeycomb cell shades that cover the entire window opening ( and let in light) with three layers of honeycomb fabric cells. I have these on all my windows and the effect on my bill has been great.  I use small space heaters in rooms where I spend time, rather than heat the entire house. 

2.  Turn the lights off when you are not using them. I had that one beat into my head (LOL).

3. Don't run hot water needlessly and  use water restrictors.

4. Layer clothing.

5. Heat with gas if possible, electric heat is the LEAST  efficient of all methods.

6.  Get an economical car and don't leadfoot it. I got a speeding ticket a few months ago and now that I have been reminded, my gas mileage has improved 25%.

7. If you have a firelplace, don't heat with it. Waste of money. Get a EPA approved fireplace insert and it will pay back in two years. Mine burns three logs all night instead of three logs in two hours, and puts out so much heat I have to open a window sometimes. Don't burn wet wood.

8. I keep my bedroom cool, my dog and blankets keep me warm.

9. Go around your house and look for air leaks, under and around doors and windows, through floors ( insulation below will help a lot), and at all electrical outlets ( you can buy  foam gaskets to stop the constant stream of air from older switch and plug outlets.  You will be amazed at how much cold air comes into your house through them.  A trick is to pull the cover, and if you see dark dust on the areas covered by the plastic cover, that means a stream of air has been blowing through depositing dust.

10. Throw out your old fashioned incandescent light bulbs and get compact fluorescents. The 1-3 dollars a month you save means $20-$50 yearly, and they now make fluorescents that have nice color  that mimics daylight (SP35 or SPX35) and they no longer flicker.  

11.  Always think about how hot air escapes and cold air enters. Does your kitchen hood have a working damper? 

 

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sorry dual post
ernie 12-26-2007, 10:59 AM | Post #2469116
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dual post
Honeycomb shell shades
robertts12 01-02-2008, 2:08 PM | Post #2471732
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Good, Ernie. The honeycomb shell shades seem to be very interesting.
Honeycomb cell shades
robertts12 01-03-2008, 12:24 PM | Post #2472105
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