What screening services do you use for options?
Johnson381 
09-19-2007, 9:50 PM | Post #2439766 |  6 Replies

While there are some subscription screening services out there, I'm finding I can create my own opportunities by screening for fundamentally strong stocks that are in uptrends.

Once I make a list of stocks I'd like to own, I check them out at M*'s option service. In snapshots, click on Options. However, I'm a little concerned that M*'s option prices may be a bit out of date. You can compare them for free over at yahoo.finance, or on your broker's web site. 

I have developed a simple calculator to determine the returns on each option for the remaining  life of the contract depending on whether it's called or not. And I can see potential annualized returns, number of contracts, investments and net credit or debit on a trade. What I don't have in my spreadsheet that's in M*'s calculator is a provision for interest rates or dividends. But I do calculate in the commissions, which are a little hard to figure at thinkorswim. If you read a few books on options, you'll see how to put together a spreadsheet and there apparently are some available online.

What screening services are people using to find attractive buy writes, leaps, etc.?
 

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Re: What screening services do you use for options?
09-20-2007, 12:31 AM | Post #2439811
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Johnson,

I use Value Line Daily Options Survey to scan for covered calls (buy-writes) from a list of M* stocks rated 3-5 Stars. For more info see my blog.

Mike A

Re: What screening services do you use for options?
09-20-2007, 2:02 PM | Post #2439992
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Lots of good ideas and a good trading plan, Mike. Recommend your blog to everyone.

I combine fundamental and technical analysis, looking for stocks that clearly are in an uptrend. If a trade goes wrong, I dump it and try something else rather than hope to dollar average my way out of the hole. 

MON Oct 07 80
09-20-2007, 3:15 PM | Post #2440017
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Valueline.com has an 8 week trial for $37.50. I signed up and tested a planned trade. Did covered call trade on MON OCT 07 80. It was ranked a 1, MON common was ranked 1 and Tech was 2. I had originally found the screen on INvestors.com, which is offering its screening tools free for a couple of weeks. Then I looked at the contract on investors.com and M*. In a covered call trade, you buy the underlying stock and sell the same number of calls, 100 shares per call contract.

Liked the trade because the stock is in an uptrend.

Mac profit 4.54%, 57.1% annualized. M* est. annualized was 48% last night. Uncalled annualized 42%; called 56.65%. My spreadsheet may be off a tiny bit.

Stock was down on the day as was the Dow.

Bot stock at $79.09 and sold the calls at $2.65 

Net Debit $76.44/share, which is the breakeven on the trade.

Do you like the trade? 

Took about 35 minutes to fill. The trade hit my limit several times before it filled just before the close. I dithered too long before doing the trade.

I'm down $37.50 on the day on the trade. 

Re: What screening services do you use for options?
09-23-2007, 11:22 AM | Post #2440947
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Hi All:

I am new to writing covered calls. I've read (not studied) a few books, including Hooper & Zalinsky's "Covered Calls & Leaps: A Wealth Option." I'm beginning serious study of their methods and have found two tools helpful:

 OptionGrid: A really neat (at least to me) program that allows you to:

   * maintain your (stock & call) portfolio

   * do analysis on options.  I can analyze stocks and calls I'm interested in - based on sources like M*, my broker, and other sources.

 The other is a free program: Option Oracle (available from SamoaSky).

 I've done a test drive of some of the options web sites. As a newbie, they offer more than I can really use at this point and thus, the cost seems out of balance with the potential reward for me at this point. I do like Ivolatility.com's free basic calculator and use it quite often.

I look forward to learning from all of you.

 

Re: What screening services do you use for options?
09-23-2007, 10:30 PM | Post #2441123
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Thanks for the newsy reply.

I've read and re-read Hooper & Zalinsky's "Covered Calls & Leaps: A Wealth Option."

My conclusion is that they've made their system so complicated it's unworkable for most people, and it depends on having you subscribe to their expensive web site. Indeed, didn't you get the feeling that the book is a sales pitch for their service;

Note that the options guru, Lawrence McMillan, concludes that writing covered calls is no more productive than buying stocks outright. He says buying covered calls with limited profit potential and unlimited risk makes little sense compared with buying stocks and managing your losses.

I'm coming back to my original strategies of buying stocks and LEAPs. I have three covered call positions that I put on last week, but I'm ready to bail if they show any signs of going south.
 

Re: What screening services do you use for options?
10-12-2007, 8:47 PM | Post #2447629
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I agree with Johnson381...the more you read the more you get confused.  Keep it simple.  My investment strategy is as follows: (for what it's worth)

- Don't diversify.  Stick to relatively few industries and a few firms w/i those industries. Get to know them inside out.  Buy when out of favor, sell when the sky in falling.  I like money, energy and drinks.  You can't get enough of them and you always want more.  
- Be patient.  Cash is King.  Always have dry powder.
- Set aside a portion of your portfolio cash to trade options...say 5%.  Set a boundry to keep your core holdings...core. 
- Only buy LEAP call and puts...nothing exotic.  Keep it simple.
- Do your homework and follow some dummy trades to gain insight as to leverage and beta as stock moves.  Learn before you burn.  Then buy.  Don't worry, time is on your side.  There will always be another bargin.
- Establish your downside bailout price and stick to it.  Never get emotionally attached to a position.  Live to invest another day.
- Don't get too greedy.  Have an idea of where you want to get out on the upside...sell the a majority of your position when you have reached your target, and if you have plenty of time left on the LEAP, leave some of your profits on the table to run a bit.  At this point, it the markets money not yours.
- Use MS Volitility index to set the baseline, then comb quality stocks in the sectors you follow, for LEAPs that appear under valued relative to peer firms.  There are bargins within the same stock LEAPs, but it takes some digging.
- Never, never, never listen to the talking heads selling books, screens, newsletters and learn to limit the addiction to CNBC.  It took me years (and many losses chasing news) to finally just turn them off.   They will take you off strategy, off focus.
- Make investing a life's study.  It's interesting and fun to make your own path.   
- There are no quick, get rich schemes.  Anyone that tells you otherwise wants to sell you something.

Just wanting to get some buzz going on the subject.  This is only one persons approach.  Would love to hear other ideas.

csmitty