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Why not Long Term Treasury Bond Fund??
markvran 06-04-2008, 11:20 AM | Post #2524605 |  19 Replies
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First, I'm a newbie and know very little about bond funds. I'm looking for a safe spot to place a significant amount of cash for my mother who is over 80 years old. The cash is in the prime money market fund right now and I was looking for something that's still relatively risk free but could return something more than the 2% that prime now offers. Here's where I am confused.  The Long Term Treasury Bond Fund - seemingly as secure as you can get - is now over 4% return and in fact consistently does better than plain money market accounts (close to 7% avg over the last ten years). Plus I believe this is tax free at the federal level. Why doesn't every park their cash in this account rather than in other money market or short term bond funds? Thanks.
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Re: Why not Long Term Treasury Bond Fund??
Sirschnitz 06-15-2008, 11:29 AM | Post #2528708
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Mark, you ask "What, if any, is the downside?".

Referring to rates, there is none.  While rates will vary just as Money Market rates will vary, during the past 2 years they have always been well above brokerage Money Market rates  (I can only speak from experience with regard to HSBC).  Part of the reason for the rate advantage is, no doubt, the absence of Expense Ratios associated with brokerage Money Market accounts. 

There are many on-line banks.  They all have different rules and procedures for accessing and depositing money.  Some charge fees for various services.  Some don't.  When I was researching on-line banks a couple of years ago, HSBC offered the best rates, most services, least fees, and best security.  I haven't been disappointed. 

FWIW, two other on-line banks (rates in parenthesis) to compare with HSBC are:  EmigrantDirect.com (2.75%) and ingdirect.com (3.0%).

"Are these widely used by Bogleheads?"

I don't know.  However, since a tenant of the Bogleheads is to minimize costs, I would not be surprised to find out that on-line savings accounts are used by many.  I doubt John Bogle recommends them because on-line banks compete with Vanguard for your money.

Regards,
Russ

 

 

 

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Re: Why not Long Term Treasury Bond Fund??
mth5221 06-15-2008, 1:39 PM | Post #2528744
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Another online bank that I've used with very good success over the years is Corus Bank.  They always offer either the highest or near highest yielding 12mo CDs and always high rates in their Money Market.
(Strangely their 12mo CD at 3.76% APY is currently below their MM rate of 3.82% APY... both require 10K minimums)    mth

http://www.corusbank.com/Consumer%20Banking.asp?page=1

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Re: Why not Long Term Treasury Bond Fund??
markvran 06-15-2008, 3:42 PM | Post #2528786
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Thanks so much, people. I will look into all this. As usual, what a great community for learning about investing. Mark
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Re: Why not Long Term Treasury Bond Fund??
bujia 06-15-2008, 4:29 PM | Post #2528804
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Markvran,

You might consider the Vanguard High Yield Muni Bond Fund-VWAHX. It has a yield of 4.76%, federal tax free which is a higher yield than the treasury bond fund you are considering. Its duration of 7.52 years is intermediate and it has a much lower volatility. The standard deviation for VUSTX is 6.80 and the SD is 4.23. Also VWAHX does much better in a bear market. If you are looking for income for your mother it does that quite well.  

Link:

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=VWAHX#chart3:symbol=vwahx;range=my;compare=vustx;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined

I own it,   Gene

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