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High oil price, Bush's fault
robertts12 05-09-2008, 10:22 AM | Post #2516123 |  18 Replies
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Re: High oil price, Bush's fault
robertts12 05-11-2008, 7:52 PM | Post #2516907
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Mshinko, you wrote:

"But I and a vast majority of American's don't!!"

Wrong question, wrong conclusion.

Does it matter what the vast majority of Americans think? No. It's not necessary and not desirable that the majority of Americans convert their cars to natural gas.  Where would they get all the conversion kits? A minority of 5% would be splendid.  Bush, as president of a country short of oil and full of natural gas, should ask that the people use a bit os natural gas. The most people even doesn't know that a converted car can run with gasoline and natural gas. If Bush was a patriot president, I suppose all the post cars would run without using oil derived products.  Nowadays there's a worlwide shortage of diesel. In the text above you can see that in other locations natural gas is mandatory for buses.

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Ethanol Immorality? A few Facts:
richardsok 05-13-2008, 11:32 AM | Post #2517398
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Actually, any possible immorality of using corn to provide ethanol probably does not apply to sugar cane.  Cane is grown in the field, shipped to the mill, where the sweet juice is extracted by running the stalks through heavy rollers under pressure.   The juice is put through centrifuges where molasses leaks out and is recovered, leaving pure brown sugar.

     The dried, inedible, squeezed-out cane stalks used to be regarded as waste.  Back in the 1950's some sugar co's created a by-products division, using the dry stalks, known in the industry as "bagass",  to produce chemicals to make nylon and artificial rubber.  Today, I understand the emphasis is to use it to produce ethanol.

       So the beauty of using cane rather than corn for ethanol is that with cane you first extract all the food value from the plant and use merely the waste for ethanol... or so I understand
 

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Re: Ethanol Immorality? A few Facts:
Governor 05-13-2008, 11:55 AM | Post #2517403
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Correct Richard.  Sugar cane is the most efficient way to produce ethanol.  Also, the climate in Brazil makes it much more efficient than corn based ethanol.  Also, it can be grown year round. 
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