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( DUG ) Ultrashort oil & gas
Don Basore 05-05-2008, 9:57 AM | Post #2514832 |  45 Replies
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While one analysts expects oil to go to $150.00 a barrel, I feel that proportional to everything else , the price of oil has risen to a frothy price. That is why I have made a small entry investment into this shorting trust. But again I could be wrong. It does pay about a 3.2% dividend at my price of $30.94. Best regards, Don
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Re: ( DUG ) Ultrashort oil & gas
Don Basore 05-14-2008, 9:24 AM | Post #2517711
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Robert Shiller is a brilliant man. He started the idea when oil was only $60 per barrel ( a little early). The man that made the most $'s in shorting subprime started in 2005 and was down considerably, but stuck to his idea, because of his expertise in CA. realestate. He ended up making a fortune. BTW, I got out of DCR @ $1.801 this AM. I would have stayed with it, if they would not have closed this fund. Best regards, Don
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chili 05-16-2008, 3:50 PM | Post #2518616
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Still short and even shorter. Bought more DUG yesterday. I consider this a classic blow off top. My time horizion can get longer than normal if needed.

chili    

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Re: ( DUG ) Ultrashort oil & gas
Don Basore 05-23-2008, 1:44 PM | Post #2520993
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I was looking right at it when it went below $24.50 and waited too long to buy more. I am still holding what I own ,but believe it will revisit the above mentioned price again, before the froth is over.        Don

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chili 05-23-2008, 4:03 PM | Post #2521037
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I sold my DUG today and took a hit. The reason I sold was because USO and UNG were up, even though DIG was down. The long week-end was another reason. The only stock I own going into the long week-end is SDS.

chili   

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Re: ( DUG ) Ultrashort oil & gas
uncleharley 05-29-2008, 2:39 PM | Post #2522662
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Did anyone else get back in??  Fwiw I bought in at $28.81 per share this afternoon.

uh

Re: ( DUG ) Ultrashort oil & gas
Don Basore 06-02-2008, 10:59 AM | Post #2523897
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I am still in and plan to buy more in case there is another steep drop. IMO $120 a barrel is not sustainable in the long run. And I get a 3% yield while I wait. Best regards, Don
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Re: ( DUG ) Ultrashort oil & gas
MIKE W 06-02-2008, 1:10 PM | Post #2523946
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Why is there a 3% yield ? I am still in but very frustrated,especially with DUG down on a horrible day for the market today.
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Re: ( DUG ) Ultrashort oil & gas
Don Basore 06-02-2008, 1:48 PM | Post #2523959
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The last dividend was only 7.6 cents per share or 1.06% in the last quarter.  Whereas within the past year they have been as high as 36.74 cents per share per quarter. Sometimes froth takes time to turn over ,ie subprime took about a decade. And many shorts that started in 2005 , were losers before becoming lucrative in 2007, JMO. As in all investments do your own DD , and come to your own conclusions. Best regards, Don
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Re: ( DUG ) Ultrashort oil & gas
MIKE W 06-03-2008, 12:30 PM | Post #2524279
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I understand that bubbles take awhile to burst. The problem is that when you are on the short end, if you are way too early you can get truly hurt. My feeling is that if the FED doesn't hold tight at the end of the month (I think they will not raise rates), then the dollar gets killed and I get out but look to get back in after Labor day.

If the FED holds interest rates the way they are, the dollar should firm and we should do well with DUG. Those are my conclusions.

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Re: ( DUG ) Ultrashort oil & gas
Don Basore 06-04-2008, 3:33 PM | Post #2524729
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Good buy UH . Yesterday Gary Kaultbaum said now is a good entry point for DUG. See http://www.garyk.com     Best regards, Don
Re: ( DUG ) Ultrashort oil & gas
WilliamJ 06-04-2008, 4:35 PM | Post #2524770
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You guys might be on to something here.

It takes guts, I'll give you that.  I watched today's seesaw ride with some interest, from the sidelines.  

What concerns me, though, is that DUG shorts a basket of energy stocks that aren't strictly tied to the price of oil, correct?  In other words, I can envision a scenario when oil goes down but the companies you're short here don't join hands in lockstep.  What's the average P/E?  Might be something to investigate.

On the other hand, uh is in the money on his $28.81 trade.

WJ
 

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Re: ( DUG ) Ultrashort oil & gas
uncleharley 06-05-2008, 2:36 PM | Post #2525100
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Not anymore.   I just bailed at 27.94.

uh

Re: ( DUG ) Ultrashort oil & gas
nvstmt 06-05-2008, 3:22 PM | Post #2525116
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It all makes so much sense.  So how about the monster rally in oil and gas today? Nothing goes straight up, but don't ignore the trend line for the next four years.  You will need great timing, or just get the divi in a CD with out the downside risk. Just my opinion.
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DUG got buried today