Really, Bob, you have been such a valuable resource for all of us. Thank you!

My BEST rest ever, was on a platform bed with latex foam.

Now the question, what is the difference in softness/hardness with latex foam?

LynnC

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Thank you Bob for this very useful information.

Do one need box spring with Latex mattress? or can I use the one I have from S&F. I think S&F makes good ones.

2nd question is prices

I have checked some of the online stores sell Latex Vinece Beach Queen Mattress plus foundation for $1599. In your experience what is the price range for this of mattress. I am sorry I am asking your trade secret but I hope you can give us some idea how much one should expect to pay?

thanks again,

asi

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One correction, I'm not Bob K. The "K" in my user ID is for my wife, Karin. Just "Bob" will do. I'm not sure how the "K" got attached.

Asi, All foam mattresses (including Latex) typically work best on solid flat surfaces. Why Sealy put them on working boxsprings is beyond me. Their new "Spring Free" latex line will be on a semi-flex foundation going forward. S&F makes the firmest "boxspring" I've ever seen so you should be fine with keeping that and putting a latex mattress on it.

$1,599 for a Sealy Venice Beach Queen set is a very good price. However, make your purchase immediately. Sealy has announced a significant price increase effective November 14th. Expect the same Venice Beach Queen set to go up at least $100 after the 14th of this month. Also, you only need the mattress, so your price should be lower than $1,599. Be aware that your savings will be minimal as the mattress is the bulk of the set price. (Inside information...the Sealy Reflexions boxspring IS the S&F boxspring!) They are twins.

Lynn, it's always a pleasure to read your comments as you are so kind. Latex firmness varies by density - the amount of latex material per square foot. The more latex per square foot, the firmer and more expensive it will be. The different "comfort selections" are achieved by layering different densities in varying combinations. Comfort is purely a personal preference.

Bob

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The June 2005 Consumer Reports issue did a nice job on mattress shopping and busting many mattress myths. It's an interesting read.

Bob

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I am not sure if I started it or just followed on the heels of someone else, but for some reason I have referred to you as Bob K. Thanks for advising me and any others here who use that reference. In any event, there any many of us here who value your expertise and opinions on the subject of mattresses. It can be a big and very important investment for many people.

I hope you are still pleased with your Prius. I have been following your updates as they are posted.

Regards,
Tom D.

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My Prius is great. I've thought of posting an update recently but I've been really busy since Labor Day. I probably will when I have more time. I think the last update was the 1-year mark at the end of March. So far, so good. It's turned out to be a good car with great MPG.

What happened to "HeyMikeCT" who started this thread?

Bob

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Thanks again for your suggestions. Sorry some of us (including me) spelled your name incorrectly.

asi

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My daughter just replaced her standard size latex matress last year. She got it from us and we got it from my wifes parents who used it before they gave it to us. My daughter had used it for 20 years or so. It had been used almost continuously since 1947. Yep over 50 years of service. And I used it for 10 years of that time and it was great.

We bought a new king size latex matress last year from Spring Air and it is also great but seems to be "conoeing" around our bodies. It is the pillow top model so maybe the top layers are compressing some but it is still very comfortable.

Bill

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Mike I wanted to thank you for all the amazing information you posted. Based on what you said we are looking for a latex mattress in the next few months. Can you recommend specific stores in the Boston area?

Thanks,

Don

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Bill, the pillowtop on the Spring Air model is most likely polyurethane foam. That's what is causing the body indentations. Check your law label and see what percent of your bed is actually latex. You may be surprised. In fact, check back with us in this thread...I'm curious.

Your story about the long term durability of latex illustrates what I and others have been saying. You just can't kill these things. The key is buying a latex mattress with a high percentage of latex versus other ingredients.

Don, OK so now I'm Mike? Good grief, I should not have said anything about the Bob "K"!

Oh well...I have connections at Bernie & Phyl's and many other Boston retailers. Write me when you're ready.

Bob

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I AM bad with names, but this was more me just poorly synthesizing too much information.

Don

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I am in Arizona at our second home and will not be back in California for a while. I will look at that time at that matress. I know when I tried to read labels in the store yesterday while shoppping for a second bed for our Arizona home I could not find the content label you described. Where exactly are they located and what part of the label should I look at?

But I know the old mattress was great and the other one is good but is getting body impressions. So I know if I buy a another latex mattress I will be really conscience of the pillow top and similar issues.

Bill

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I apologize too, as I thought the "k" was attached. Well, okay, it is attached, but in a different way...:-)

I'm guessing that it's not a good idea to rip off all those tags on the bed...is it? Oh...oh.... too late.

Bob, you are too kind to take your time to tell us all we need to know about sleeping and gas saving cars.

LynnC
Still on my water bed.

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I'm buying a new home in PA and will get some new bedroom furniture. When I have that selected, I'd appreciate your help in buying a mattress.

The home is in Easton, PA; does that qualify for your offer of help "throughout the Northeast"?

Ray

PS: My significant other, Julie, just took delivery of her new Prius after a six month wait; she loves it. I copy your posts and email them to her. (She doesn't get involved with M*.)

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What happened to the original poster?

Ladies and Gentlemen, it is only polite to check back when you've asked a question or started a thread.......

Yoo hoo, HeyMike CT...where are you?

LynnC

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Bill, the law label is the white label sewn into the mattress border with the famous words "Under penalty of law...". Many people rip these off but they shouldn't. On the label will be the "contents". if you find the label, you'll find what you need to know.

For all, checking this label while shopping in a retail store looks suspicious to the salespeople. The best response is either an honest one, or just say you are checking the contents to avoid any allergies.

Ray, I have connections in PA as well. If I recall correctly, you are near Allentown, right? If so, then no problem helping out. Maybe Julie would like my tracking spreadsheet for her Prius ;>). Seriously, make sure Julie reads her owner's manual. It helped me to really appreciate the car and all its special features, stuff I would not have guessed or figured out on my own.

Lynn, could you do us a favor and find the older post regarding mattresses in Shop Talk previous to 559 and 1359? In that post we had a great discussion regarding all types of coil systems and their feature/benefits. I cannot find the previous post. It's from 2003 I think. I don't believe the thread started out referencing mattresses.

Bob

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Bob,

I just scanned the first 500 posts and came up with MaryAnn's Stearns and Foster post #115. That was the closest I could get. Do you remember who started it? My eyes are rolling on the floor...Whew......

BTW, where are Mr. Jean and Snapits, Cottonhawk and some of the other old regulars? Kind of fun seeing some of the old names.

Not only did I tear off my mattress tag (under penalty of law) I can't find my print outs of your mattress words....

LynnC

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I think you have mentioned all types of mattresses in that conversations.

Other good conversations on mattress are

1271 and 1359

asi

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Post 375 was the main one I was looking for, but I did not realize it was slightly more than two years ago. I ran out of steam searching all of Bob's posts. I had even made a copy of 375, but was having a senior moment and could not locate it.

Tom D.

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17. Many questions, many answers
kbmuenkel| 09-18-03 | 09:06 AM
First, the "best mattress" is more subjective than one would like to hear. It is easier to discuss durability, strength, body support systems, edge support systems, etc. Mattresses are far more complicated than most realize, nonetheless, I will endeavor to simplify the process.

Body support...your spine requires support at all times, but your muscles responsible for the support of your spine require rest. If you sleep on a non-supportive, or inadequate supportive surface, the muscles cannot rest and therefore fatigue throughout the night and send signals to your brain to "toss and turn". The result, you wake up stiff and you were robbed of the deeper stages of sleep necessary for proper functioning the next day. A proper supportive surface will allow the muscles to rest, reduce tossing and turning, and eliminate the fatigue in the morning. The role of support in the mattress is to achieve two things...PROPER SPINAL ALIGNMENT (contour) and POSITIVE RESISTANCE (spinal support). You must have both to achieve proper support and therefore it's best to compare systems against these criteria.

The various support systems offered in the marketplace are:
100% Latex (rubber)
Poly-Urethane foams
Poly-Urethane foam / Visco foam (memory foam)
Water & Air (displacement-flotation system)
Pocketed coil designs (wrapped coils)
Open coil designs (many variations)
Continuous coils (spirals)

By far, the best mattress that money can buy is a solid latex mattress with at least 85% to 90% latex listed on the law-label. A latex mattress has near-perfect contouring capability (as does urethane foams, displacement-flotation systems, and pocketed coil designs), but has superior support performance (positive resistance) than the others. Finally, a solid latex mattress has a life-span of at least 20+ years and will never show a body impression (gully or canoeing effect).

Poly-urethane foams including memory foam (visco-elastic) have the same properties as latex but will not last as long. On average, poly-foam is one third as resilient as latex. Poly-foams will show body impressions over time. The most popular Poly-foam beds are Sears. The most popular visco-elastic beds are Tempurpedic.

Displacement-Flotation systems (Water & Air) have near-perfect countouring performance but rely on displacement for positive resistance. In essence, your body has to press down in some areas to increase pressure in other areas. Many consumers with special needs for support have found these systems to be inadequate since they have a tendency to "hammock" based on your body type, however, if you're among the norm, you'll find these systems to be enormously comfortable. The most common air bed is Select Comfort. The most common waterbed is Somma (currently out of business). Water beds are fading fast as air beds are taking their place.

Pocketed coil designs (wrapped coils) are the most contouring innerspring systems but generally do not hold up as well as open coils systems and continuous wire (spirals) systems. Pocketed coils are great for isolating motion (limiting transfer of movement from one side to another), and are considered to be very comfortable sleep systems. Their durabilty over time is their weakness. The most famous pocketed coil design is the Simmons Beautyrest.

Open coil systems are the most common with the most variances within brands. Their conformance differs from design to design with Sealy and Stearns & Foster being the best. The best open coil system in the market is Stearns & Foster (IMO). The most famous open coil system in the market is Sealy Posturepedic. Because of the variances within brands, there is alot to say within this category (too much for this space).

Continuos wire systems (spirals) are the least conforming among innerspring systems but are very durable and hold up well. The most famous continuous system in the market is Serta Perfect Sleeper. The best continuous wire system in the market is Kingsdown (IMO).

More to come

Bob

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Wow.....away from the PC for only 2 days and people start to go bonkers wondering where you are. Sorry but I don't always have enough free time lately to get on as often as I like.

Bob, Thanks for all the info. I think I am going to wait till February to purchase a new bed. I'll make my decision after I see the new lines coming out from Sealy and Stearns and Foster. And yes, I am from Connecticut. Usually I buy my bedding from Better Bedding but am willing to purchase from most anywhere.

One concern I have is that the Sealy web site has no local retailers listed as selling their Latex line. Think I'll call them next week to verify that. Are you familar with a local company called Gold Bond? They also make a latex mattress but I have no idea how good it is.

Thanks for all the info. I really appreciate it.

Mike H

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I know the owners of Better Bedding, so if you want to purchase there, I may be able to help. They carry Natural Response from King Koil, but if it's latex you decide on, I would stick with Nature's Rest or Sealy's line. Gold Bond is local for CT but I know little about their current latex line. I do know Gold Bond does not make their own latex. I can find out the information easily.

Tom & Lynn, thanks for tracking down thread 375. That was the one I was thinking about but couldn't find. I remember going into much detail back then. Most of that information still applies.

Bob

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who found that post, Bob.

Good to see you again, Mike. We are lucky to have Bob on the forum giving us valuable information.

This time, Bob, I will put my mattress print out of your words somewhere safe.

Thank you for your valuable time,

LynnC

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"Ray, I have connections in PA as well. If I recall correctly, you are near Allentown, right?"

Yes, Easton is about ten miles east of Allentown. Bethlehem, PA is between the two and all three are on Route 78.

" Maybe Julie would like my tracking spreadsheet for her Prius ;>)"

Sure, she plans to keep the Prius for ten years so tracking the performance would be a great help. You can send it to me at rcg123@optonline.net.

Many thanks

Ray

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Buying a mattress is important, ecspecially if you have back trouble. We probably invested at least 2 full days on buying a mattress.

We bought a topper of one inch tempurpedic at Sam's Club for $120 and it worked for me. It was incredibly comfortable. But my husband has back trouble and he decided to get a full set of tempurpedic.

It grew complicated. The bottom was extra thick and we have a 4 poster tall bed. I had to "jump" to get in bed with the taller set. ha My husband then bought the shorter, regular sized bottom and now I like it a lot. There was just 3 inches difference, but it made a big difference.

The back specialist that my husband goes to said that people with back trouble are making the mattress companies rich. Everyone that he sees say that they bought a new mattress and that didn't help.

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Bob, thanks for all your information you provide. The business I deal with does not carry Sealy any longer. They now are exclusive with Spring Air and carry Natures Rest. I was looking at the Sealy Venice Beach Queen set. Can you give me the name of the comparable Natures Rest set? Thanks. Charles

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as wallstreet mentions, is a good idea if you would like a softer mattress. Worth a try instead of spending tons of money on a new mattress.

Overstock.com has some good prices on toppers.

LynnC

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I was traveling on business all week and just checked in.

Ray, I have connections at Sleepy's which sells in your area. Also, the Sealy representative for Eastern PA is a friend of mine. When you are ready, I may be able to help you. I will email you my Prius spreadsheet for Julie.

Charles, regarding Nature's Rest, there are some new models in the market which I need to do more research to give you an educated opinion. As for the Sealy Reflexions Venice Beach, I would wait for the new Sealy Spring Free Latex line to hit retailer's floors in the next few months. I saw them this week and was very impressed. I believe they are an improvement over the current Reflexions line. If you like the Venice Beach, there are 3 Sealy Spring Free latex models that you should look at - Jacaranda Plush @ $1,799, Meadows Plush @ $1,999, and Pampas Plush Pillowtop @ $2,499. Those prices are for queen sets.

Bob

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Thanks Bob. I am looking at the Spring Air products of which Natures Rest is a part. I live in North Carolina and many of the furniture businesses in the Hickory, Lenoir, and other areas offer great direct prices. Just need to get them to price a decent queen set from Natures Rest (latex, as I think you sold us). Thanks. Charles

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Latex International

I found this interesting article in the local Sunday Hartford Courant concerning Latex International, the premier maker of latex bedding. Funny how something can be in your own backyard without knowing it. Hope you enjoy it.

Mike H

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Hello Bob,

Could you please tell me if there is any difference in the quality/life between nature's rest and Sealy's latex mattresses?

In the past you have been recommending both brands. I have seen (online) all of the nature's rest mattress have 7" latex core vs. different core sizes for different model made by Sealy. Does that matter?

What would be equivalent to Venice beach among the nature's rest latex mattress line?

How much is the price difference between these 2 mattresses?

I hope you are still around to check this message and have a nice holidays. asi

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I recently read an 'expert' who thought that one cause of back pain is beds that are so comfortable that you just sleep all night in one position. If your bed is slightly less comfortable, you toss and turn occasionally and wake up feeling a lot better.

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From my experience, latex is latex regardless of who makes it. Granted there are different formulations and processes in manufacturing latex foam, but for the general public, the performance of latex is what you're looking for.

When choosing a latex mattress, in terms of value, think of it as buying gold. If a one ounce coin was 70% gold while another one ounce coin was 90% gold, if offered at the same price, what would you buy?

Using the above analogy, the 'Purity Aspect', (percent latex content vs. the totality of all ingredients) can be found listed on the white Law Label sewn into the bed. This law label is the one required by law not to be removed etc. The second variable is the 'Volume Aspect', how many inches of latex you are paying for.

Regardless of brand, my advice is to select the 'highest purity aspect' for durabilty, and select the 'volume aspect' for your comfort and budget. Keep in mind, a 5 inch 100% latex mattress will last just as long as a 12 inch 100% latex mattress. However, you will pay substantially more for the 12 inch latex mattress.

For review, PURITY is for durability (% of latex listed on the law label), VOLUME is for comfort and budget (how many inches of latex are you paying for - 6, 7, 8, 9, or more?). Finally, you will pay for other ingredients such as various fibers, luxurious covers, and other comfort ingredients.

Remember when considering durabilty, it is not the volume of latex that matters nearly as much as the percent of latex content when compared to the total ingredients in the mattress. The higher percentage of the latex content, the longer the mattress will last without "sagging". A good % to look for is 85% or higher. Anything less than 85%, walk away. The rest of your decision is all comfort and budget, nothing else.

I hope this helps. The gold analogy of purity and volume should help if you understand it and I've made it clear enough.

Bob

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I would look for one that has been owned for several yrs by a very very conservative investor. Might want to start your search at yard sales in upscale neighborhoods where a lot of real old people live.

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for a quick and detailed response.

I more question.

When I talked to sales rep, he was telling me latex content in the latex core (100% latex core).

I would imagine there is different types of latex in the latex mattress.

When you say latex content, do you mean overall latex content?

That was very useful information? I will let you know soon what did I buy? thanks again, asi

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How ridiculous. All latex cores are 100%. That response is like saying the alcohol content in Vodka is 100%. Of course the alcohol portion of the Vodka is 100%, but the bottle is not 100% alcohol. Don't trust salespeople.

Here's a clarification. If a latex mattress has an overall height of 10 inches, but has a 6 inch latex core (of 100% latex), then what is the remaining 4 inches made of? If the other 4 inches is polyurethane foam, you have a 60% latex content (6 inches of latex divided by 10 inches overall in the mattress).

The overall latex content is what you want, meaning, what percentage of ALL ingredients in the mattress is latex. This percentage will be listed on the law label. I'll bet 90% of the salespeople will not know or tell you the truth. Look at the law label, the truth will be there for you to find.

Bob

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very helpful. I will look at law label before buying. Have a nice holidays. asi

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I bought a venice beach mattress and it does feel different than spring mattresses. It has been good so far and I got it a at a good price too.

It does not say any where on the mattress (atleast I could not find it) Venice Beach. On the law label it says manufacture-Sealy and Latex content 90% and date of make.

I remember you mentioned in the previous posts that you also have a Venice Beach mattress. Do you see any effect with time like sagging.

How manufactures measure the height of mattress? from the side, edge to edge. The reason for asking this is if I meause the height from the side then it is about 10" but it is plush mattress which is more raised about 1-2" from the edge then it would be 12" which is correct height for Venice mattress. thanks asi.

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Good for you. I hope the mattress works out well for you.

My 4 & half year old son has a twin size Venice Beach mattress on a platform bed. He has had it for roughly two years. He weighs 38 pounds. As such, the mattress looks new with no impression at all.

My wife & I have a Nature's Rest from 1999. There is a very slight impression, maybe a quarter to half an inch at most in nearly 7 years. My guess is we'll get at least 20 years out of it if we wanted to. Right now, we have no plans to change it.

Our guest room has a Spring Air latex mattress from 1996, although the latex core was made by Latex International, not Spring Air. It was my first latex mattress and turned out to be too firm for my taste. Back then, there were few latex choices, most of which were firm or medium firm. There is no impression at all, however, I've added a 3 inch memory foam topper to soften it up. Now it sleeps like a dream. Every guest we've ever had comes downstairs and asks, "What mattress were we sleeping on?". They sleep so well, they cannot believe it. Many go out and buy a latex mattress soon after, often through my connections.

I see from your post, you found the latex content on the law label. The Venice Beach is 90% latex. The other 10% is urethane foam and a small amount of silk/wool fiber. The urethane foam will form some body impressions, which is normal and to be expected. In fact, you will notice this settling in the first month. Expect about a half inch. The name of the mattress will be found on the silk Reflexions label sewn into the border panel at the opposite side of the law label.

Manufacturers will measure the depth of a body indentation by placing a long straight edge along the top of the mattress and measuring the depression below to the highest point of the quilt panel below it. They do not measure down into the sewn part of the quilt pattern. You could use a yard stick, a long level or broom stick, etc. Many use a long string with fishing weights at each end that hang over the edge of the mattress keeping the string taught.

I hope this helps. Good luck and check back to let us know how things are working out.

Bob

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I called customer service and they told me venice beach label should be on the side either head or foot side.

But you knew exactly that it is opposite to the law label side and that where I found it. It has been few days since I bought this one and it seems to be very good and strong support. I am sleeping more now and I was late in the morning in the last few days.

I believe this venice beach is one sided mattress and since there is no flipping involve, do one need to turn the mattress 180 degree after few months?

Thanks again for helping me with the mattress shopping.

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Glad to hear you're adjusting well.

It's a good idea to rotate it 180 degrees as often as you feel the need. Rotating it will even out any impressions over time. The mattress is very heavy, most people need help moving it.

Bob

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Thank you very much for answering all of the concerns and questions. I will keep you posted my experience with the latex mattress. asi

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I am in the market for a new queen mattress and box spring and have read the prior posts. It seems like latex is the way to go. I have tried one at a local business and like the feel. It is a Bayshore by Charrington Cross (or something like that), which the salesperson assured me was a Reflections from Sealy. Price is $1320 for the set. The law label said 94% latex.
I went on Sealy's website and found that they are about to come out with a new latex line called Spring Free. Does anyone know anything about this product, especially how it would compare to a Reflections? Should I wait? Also, can anyone tell me if I am getting a good deal on the Reflections at the price quoted? Thanks, Jeff

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The Carrington Chase Bayshore is identical to the Sealy Reflexions Island Rose and Newport Beach. At $1,320 for a queen set, you are doing very well. That is a sharp price, as I've seen them sold for $1,799 and up. I would not hesitate to grab that at $1,320.

The new Sealy latex line is called Sealy Posturepedic Spring Free. They are very impressive, but will definitely cost more. The opening model will sell for $1,799 with the rest higher.

I hope this helps.

bob

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A mattress retailer near my house has new sealy spring latex mattress (I don't remember name of mattress) but he is selling it for $1800 for the set. But if you only want mattress then price is $1200. With the latex mattress you don't need box spring if you have a flat foundation of bed without any spaces. At least thats what told me in one of the earlier replies in this thread. Perhaps you can save by not having box spring.

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We bought a Design Within Reach foam mattress (Made in Italy - must have polyurethane because it had an odor in the beginning). We picked out the Firm model, from their new high-end line which has a Gore-tex top lining with holes so it breathes, COOLS AND wicks away mositure. Its also anti-mold, etc. My backaches in the morning are a thing of the past. My partner likes it but would have been equally as happy with a regular mattress.

The DWR foam mattress goes on platform beds and slats equally well (we have a slat bed). Caveat: one cannot put a mattress cover on it or use a heating pad in bed.

Good luck with your shopping!

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Just noticed this post today after weeks of shopping for a mattress.

We bought a Sealy Reflexion Huntington Beach LATEX mattress and returned it after 2 weeks. Both my husband and I hated it.

We decided to go with a traditional innerspring mattress for 1/2 the price of the latex.
Jeannette

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Has anyone tried an air mattress?


gordon

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air matresses and woke up in pain

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I read a recent article, and it was something I had never heard before.

When people purchase and have a new mattress delivered, some companies haul away the old one. They put in same truck, along with other new mattresses for next stop. The article cautioned about how this practice can spread bed bugs, and the huge nuisance of getting rid of from house once infested.

Rob

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That would bug me.


gordon

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I was very much impresssed by the company which delivered my mattress.

Mattress was dilivered in the box which was open in the drive away and mattress was rapped in the plastic covers which were opened in the bedroom. Even though they put the old mattress in the same truck but new mattresses were in the boxes so it is not a big deal. I don't about other companies how do they do it.

If you are that much concerned with the bugs then probably you should be more worried with the food (esp. canned food). Guess where it is stored? In the ware houses, and it is favorite hang out for the rats too!!

Reason for mentioning this is many people ingnore to clean the cans before opening it.

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Thank you for your reply posted 1/9. I was just notified that the store I have been working with has received a new Sealy Posturepedic Spring Free for me to try. Price is virtually the same as the Carrington Chase Bayshore (Reflexions Island Rose/Newport Beach). Seems hard to believe because you think it is a superior product and should be more expensive. I do trust the owner of the store. This is a very small place and I believe his costs and mark-up are low. He tells me he sleeps on a latex mattress. Assuming my wife and I like the feel, sounds like I should jump at it, no? Do you know in what way this new mattress and box spring are superior to the old? Thanks.

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Make sure you can try it for 90 days, just in case you don't like it.
We returned the SEaly Huntington Beach latex mattress after 2 weeks.
I hope latex works for you.
Jeannette

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back to the top as it is important for anyone looking for a new mattress.

LynnC

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I bought my venice beach almost 1 year ago and very happy with it. Very good support and comfort. Thank you bob for recommending this mattress.

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I finally ended up buying a Sealy Springfree Meadows Latex mattress. So far so good. I wake up without the aches and pains I had before. I am glad I waited for this model to come out. Thanks Bob

Mike H

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for "bumping" this post. Will be purchasing new mattress in the next three months and won't have to do the "searching" for past posts that you provided.

Candy

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A year ago I bought a Venice Beach based on Bob's recommendations for a latex mattress and my own testing at the local dealer. It was a fine mattress but a bit soft for me so I then bought a Manhattan Beach, which is just splendid. Best night's sleep ever.

I moved the Venice Beach mattress to the guest bedroom and get consistent raves from folks who stay over, often asking me what kind or brand it is.

A latex mattress is the best, in my opinion.

Thanks to Bob for his expertise.

Ray

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One of the best rewards in life is to be of service to others. It is gratifying that some of you have benefited from this and other mattress threads. As you can see, your mattress does make a difference.

Ray - we also experience that same reaction from our guests. It is not uncommon for them to "sleep in" and wake up with comments like "I haven't slept like that in years" or "I can't believe I slept so late".

Simmons has jumped in with a Latex selection but it seems expensive compared with Sealy's line. I still believe that Sealy's Spring Free line is the best for your money right now in the market.

Bob

Originally posted in thread: 1547

My wife has wanted a Tempurpedic mattress for a long time. Finally got it! She loves it and swears by it but I absolutely cannot sleep on it. It gives me fairly severe lower back pain every time; so I end up sleeping on the old 12 yr old waterbed that is now in the other bedroom.
Has anyone else out there had a similar experience?
Am I just so accustomed to the old bed that I haven't given this new mattress enough time so I can get comfortable with it? This is a crazy situation. Help!

Mike U.

Originally posted in thread: 1547

Make sure you can try it for 90 days, just in case you don't like it. We returned the SEaly Huntington Beach latex mattress after 2 weeks. I hope latex works for you.

I recently purchased a mattress with a 60 comfort guarantee. The guarantee was that if you were unhappy with your mattress any time in the first 60 days, you can exchange it for another mattress. I recently tried this and it wasn't as reasonable as it first appeared.

This was at Mattress Discounters. They work like a car dealer. They overinflate the prices of all their mattresses (think MSRP), and then have the salepeople give seemingly huge discounts to prospective customers. Just by saying "Oh I'm not sure if I want to buy the mattress today", they'll knock off 10-20% of the purchase price.

I purchased a Stearns & Foster, supposedly the best mattress company in the planet, at $300 off the sticker price. The mattress was horrible. It rose along the edges and sunk in the middle.

When I went to return it, the sale people weren't giving me the automatic 10-20% off the sticker. Why should they? They had all the leverage. I ended up paying more money for a mattress that was cheaper than mattress I originally bought. :(

Originally posted in thread: 1547

Thanks to Bob and everyone for the fine conversation. It was very timely for me. My back problems have been acting up these past two months, and I finally decided that the mattress was probably to blame.

I bought a Sealy Springfree 100% latex core with a memory foam topper. Set me back about $2500 for queen size, plus the cost of new sheets since the new mattress is much thicker than the old one.

After I sleep on it for awhile, I will let you all know if it helps cure my back problems.

Glenn

Originally posted in thread: 1547

Give it more time and adjust. It might be a mental hang up.
Think more about the total sleeping conditions, than just one element, such as the mattress.
I have the capability to sleep any where, any time, given proper settings.
Forgive me if I am repeating myself; I did not review past posts.
The proper conditions are a cool room, darkness, no sound, light covers, soft pillow.
Being able to lay a leg next to my loved one of 51 years is a calming thought.

Our mattress at home must be 20 years old. The one in the new RV is slightly softer.
I could sleep on the floor if the conditions were right.
The worst mattress I have found was a water bed, but that was 20 years ago.

IMHO, the importance of the mattress is over stated.
Rossby

Originally posted in thread: 1547