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Bob Barr: Health Care
Santa Cruz 05-13-2008, 11:44 AM | Post #2517401 |  25 Replies
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Bob Barr: Health Care
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Re: Bob Barr: Health Care
pining4Lenore 05-13-2008, 12:00 PM | Post #2517406
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Uncle Bob  is against "govt regulation" in healthcare...

Does that mean he favors ending "Medicare as we know it"... ?  Didn't hear him mention that.  Maybe he just wants to bribe seniors by continuing to give THEM socialized medicine, but opposing socialized medicine for the rest of us?

Does Uncle Bob favor ending intrusive govt regulation of pharmaceutical and medical equipment PATENTS?    Those regulations are causing higher than necessary prices in healthcare.

Does Uncle Bob favor an "open border" with respect to obtaining pharmaceuticals from Canada?  Or traveling to Cuba to obtain affordable healthcare?     I mean if our govt regulation is the problem, than those should be initiatives that he favors. 

 

 

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Santa Cruz 05-13-2008, 12:08 PM | Post #2517410
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Does that mean he favors ending "Medicare as we know it"... ?  Didn't hear him mention that.  Maybe he just wants to bribe seniors by continuing to give THEM socialized medicine, but opposing socialized medicine for the rest of us?

 

I can not see how Medicare can continue to reimburse

at 10 to 50 cents on the dollar for services with more and more Boomers retiring. 

 

Does Uncle Bob favor ending intrusive govt regulation of pharmaceutical and medical equipment PATENTS?    Those regulations are causing higher than necessary prices in healthcare.

 ?????

 

Does Uncle Bob favor an "open border" with respect to obtaining pharmaceuticals from Canada?  Or traveling to Cuba to obtain affordable healthcare?     I mean if our govt regulation is the problem, than those should be initiatives that he favors.

 ????

 

Uncle Bob????

He is not my Uncle, is he yours? 

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Governor 05-13-2008, 12:18 PM | Post #2517412
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How many people go to Cuba for Health Care?  You've seen too many movies. 
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Hank 05-13-2008, 2:57 PM | Post #2517458
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Howdy, Governor

Mr. Michael Moore's last movie brought up how wonderful the Cuban medical system works. Michael  always has a bad habit of only telling one side of the equation.   We need a new comprehensive health care system in this country. However, the bulk of the cost of this plan should be covered by our government. However, a certain amount monthly cost needs to be absorbed by individual policy holders and the individual Corporations that hire the employee.   No free lunches. The medical industry and the insurance companies need also be controlled. Have a Bud on me Governor.

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Santa Cruz 05-13-2008, 2:59 PM | Post #2517460
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Hank:

Howdy, Governor

Mr. Michael Moore's last movie brought up how wonderful the Cuban medical system works. Michael  always has a bad habit of only telling one side of the equation.   We need a new comprehensive health care system in this country. However, the bulk of the cost of this plan should be covered by our government. However, a certain amount monthly cost needs to be absorbed by individual policy holders and the individual Corporations that hire the employee.   No free lunches. The medical industry and the insurance companies need also be controlled. Have a Bud on me Governor.

 the bulk of the cost of this plan should be covered by our government

 

 WHY?

 

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Hank 05-13-2008, 9:41 PM | Post #2517604
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Governor,  Almost 60 % of  our citizens have no health care. The majority of these souls cannot afford the health care premiums.  Now these unfortune people are going to the emergency wards of their local hospital for services.  Now Governor you wonder why hospital cost have gone astronomical high. If we keep allowing our health care providers to increase the cost of individual policies by 15 to 20% per year you will have even more middle class citizens going to the emergency care facilties. I have not even brought up our 12 to 18 million illegals who are also the emergency health care or other medical facilities for primary care. What's the solution Governor?
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Santa Cruz 05-13-2008, 9:45 PM | Post #2517608
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Hank:
Governor,  Almost 60 % of  our citizens have no health care. The majority of these souls cannot afford the health care premiums.  Now these unfortune people are going to the emergency wards of their local hospital for services.  Now Governor you wonder why hospital cost have gone astronomical high. If we keep allowing our health care providers to increase the cost of individual policies by 15 to 20% per year you will have even more middle class citizens going to the emergency care facilties. I have not even brought up our 12 to 18 million illegals who are also the emergency health care or other medical facilities for primary care. What's the solution Governor?

I am NOT Governor, BUT

If you can not see the government is the problem

you can not see the solution. 

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danielTX 05-13-2008, 11:32 PM | Post #2517633
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I like what Bob is saying - return health care decisions to "the people" and their doctors.

So Hank, regarding all those people who can't afford health care: that's just their decision.

And regarding all the people who go bankrupt each year from medical bills: that's just their decision.

And regarding all the people who are denied insurance: their decision.

What a great system!
 

 

 

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Santa Cruz 05-14-2008, 6:00 AM | Post #2517663
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Hi danielTX,

I was looking at my Mom's Medicare statement the other day and she was charged $250.00 for something I can not remember what it was. Medicare paid $50 or so her blue cross paid $26 or so and that was it.

Medicare capped what could be charged.

But the service provider does not eat the difference. COSTS just like squeezing a balloon the air just goes to an other part of the balloon. Medicare makes health care cheap for some and a disaster for others.

So the true cost of Medicare is those people who  "can't afford health care", "go bankrupt each year from medical bills" and "are denied insurance".

There is a difference between Health Insurance and health care. If everyone had health insurance and paid for their own health care there would be far fewer problems.

Using insurance companies to pay for health care is expensive. But having Health Insurance that ONLY covers catastrophic costs is cheap.

It is only going to get worse, cause of the Baby Boom Bulge is retiring.

P.S. here is an other example:

I was charged $600.00 dollars for a plastic tube
3 or 4 feet long for a steroid IV, this was the cost JUST for the tube it gets used once.

I believe it was 4 treatments @ $2000.00 each

Why should a 3 or 4 foot plastic tube cost $600.00 dollars? 

 

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