Newsgrouper:

Can you give us an example of "being bullied by those who call themselves Diehards?"

Oh for goodness sakes, you can't stand it that maybe there would be a forum about Vanguard funds that you can't control, can you?  What is wrong with you?

It's true that there's a small problem on the forum, but I don't know that we need a second Vanguard forum.

I've been communicating with Jerry ("Cudaman") and get the feeling that if we took the conflict offline for a few days we could work out a compromise.  Read HERE. 

Unfortunately, there a few "bad apples" at that forum that make it very difficult to post.  As said, I'm a long-time Vanguard customer.  Vanguard offers some excellent managed funds along with their famous index funds.  Once these managed funds are mentioned in a conversation, communication stops.

It's important for ALL Vanguard customers to feel welcomed there, not just those with a passive investing philosophy. 

We need to work as a team, not as adversaries. But, it's very difficult at present.

Norbert

norbertc:

It's true that there's a small problem on the forum, but I don't know that we need a second Vanguard forum.

I've been communicating with Jerry ("Cudaman") and get the feeling that if we took the conflict offline for a few days we could work out a compromise.  Read HERE. 

Unfortunately, there a few "bad apples" at that forum that make it very difficult to post.  As said, I'm a long-time Vanguard customer.  Vanguard offers some excellent managed funds along with their famous index funds.  Once these managed funds are mentioned in a conversation, communication stops.

It's important for ALL Vanguard customers to feel welcomed there, not just those with a passive investing philosophy. 

We need to work as a team, not as adversaries. But, it's very difficult at present.

Norbert

Hi Norbert -

I am not currently a Vanguard customer but am very interested in learning more about these funds to assist a much younger relative of mine who is interested in becoming one.  I think M* needs a second forum for those of us who simply want to learn/discuss Vanguard funds without having to subscribe to the Diehard's philosophy in order to post.  Given all the posts by/about people who think they are founders of that forum and get to dicate to others what they can post about and the attacks on those who don't have the same philosophy of investing, I don't see that as possible on the current forum.

I think M*.com would be well served by a second forum where people could ask/answer questions about Vanguard funds without all the nonsense that goes on on the current forum (that the Diehards act like they own).

A Simple Solution........

M* should just change the name of that forum to........ 'Vanguard Funds'!

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The message will come through real fast!

Taylor

TaylorZR:

A Simple Solution........

M* should just change the name of that forum to........ 'Vanguard Funds'!

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The message will come through real fast!

Taylor

That is certainly a possibility if M* intended the current forum to be about Vanguard funds vs. about Diehards.  I really don't know what M* intended that forum to be about.  If the forum is supposed to be about the Diehards, then having 2 forums would be nice.  If it is supposed to be about Vanguard Funds, then I think that changing the name would work fine.

Why don't you just use the Mutual Funds forum to ask your questions about Vanguard if you do not feel comfortable on the Diehard's forum?

It appears to me that Vanguard related topics get good (and civil) coverage on the Mutual funds forum.

 http://socialize.morningstar.com/NewSocialize/forums/thread/2507644.aspx

helmut 

StarHBre:

Why don't you just use the Mutual Funds forum to ask your questions about Vanguard if you do not feel comfortable on the Diehard's forum?

Why don't they just eliminate all the forums devoted to specific fund families and let everyone post on the Mutual Funds forum about all mutual funds then?  There is a reason that separate forums were set up for different fund families; I will leave you to figure out what it is.

It would be nice if Vanguard had its own forum like Fidelity, American, etc. have.  If the Diehards forum was intended to be a Vanguard forum, then a name change would help to express that.

KCallie:

Newsgrouper:

Can you give us an example of "being bullied by those who call themselves Diehards?"

Oh for goodness sakes, you can't stand it that maybe there would be a forum about Vanguard funds that you can't control, can you?  What is wrong with you?

KCallie: I asked a simple question giving you the opportunity to make a reasoned argument.  You chose to write a non-responsive and glib reply.  After looking at some of your other posts I should not have been surprised.

Newsgrouper:

KCallie: I asked a simple question giving you the opportunity to make a reasoned argument.  You chose to write a non-responsive and glib reply.  After looking at some of your other posts I should not have been surprised.

Talk about nonresponsive - your post failed to address my point and then launched into more attacks.